What I'm missing in Hive, got tailored in Hive-Grove and why I post it for Snapie.
Published on HivePostify by @beelzael · Fri Aug 07 2026
A chat. Since the beginning, that's what's missing for me. Obviously, when I started, I had no idea how that could work. I tried the weird PeakD chat, but Azircon, Galenkp and co. thought that I was a scammer - if they even looked at it. I brought it up to Meno when we first started talking (I still remember the call we did, both being in Ecuador, him explaining me a few things and I pacing up and down the bakery office, being completely overwhelmed).
And now, seeing Snapie, seeing snaps in general, I thought that it must be possible to do that, but without all the extractors and comment spammers and dumb answer humans & bots. So I threw the idea at Shiftrox, who was casually building the idle-game ["Hive Grove"](https://hivegrove.up.railway.app/) and was foolishly asking for feedback and ideas on where to go, how to build it into a community asset for Hive.
So I told him my idea. Tried to explain with words what I was imagining. And somehow, magically, he got it. Through 3 languages. Me, German mother tongue, speaking English to a Portuguese mother tongue. What could possibly go wrong?
It's basic, and it's beautiful. [A container post, like Snaps, is the foundation.](https://peakd.com/hive-140217/@shiftrox/enpt-br-hive-grove-the-fire-didnt-even-go-out-campfire-v2) The hive-grove account creates it every day. From the beginning, I used every chance I got to state that it has to be without rewards - just genuine interaction. Shiftrox is kind of more generous than I, so he implemented a 20% commentrewarder on the container post - the rest goes to the game account for self-funding, in the spirit of never needing outside funds. HG-player can upvote the container post (I have it on auto).
Campfire messages can still be liked, with 1% VP as default, a great idea by shiftrox. I think that should be the absolute max, with possibility of putting the setting even lower. Again, the idea is to encourage genuine conversation, chatting, not farming. So maybe even 0% VP likes might be a good idea.
Honestly, it's working great. It's up for 5 days now, in general, 2 days with my suggested layout of topics, and answering function. Like a little discord on Hive. Rudimentary, of course, though progressing incredibly fast. More people are joining in, talking about teeth surgery, broken glasses and, of course, HIVE. it's opening up the road for some more dreaming.
What if we implemented that into Snapie? Adding private chats? For example, and I have absolutely no idea if that would work, sending coded messages that only the other persons private posting key can decrypt. Meno told me once that he sent messages that way, sending 0.001 Hive with the code. But wouldn't it be possible to create comments on a container that only the private posting key can decrypt?
And group chats could be similar. Create a chat group, and a decryption key is automatically created and assigned only to members of the group. Everyone else sees "Buchstabensalat", letter salad. Or whatever, as said, I have not much of an idea on how this might work. But maybe containers are a good start?
Rewards turned on "burn", maybe. Whatever is sent, no way to extract any Hive from it. That's important. Or we'll have bots sending each other messages, upvoting those constantly.
And that's why I post it here. To bring more ideas to Meno, who absolutely [does not have enough work](https://peakd.com/hive-126152/@beelzael/what-i-read-about-work-today) to do with his front-end. It's somewhat ironic that I wrote about just that yesterday. And I'm glad that I'm not making [Acidyo's experience](https://peakd.com/rant/@acidyo/ill-just-do-it-myself) throwing ideas around, but the contrary - seeing them being turned into action even better than I had imagined.
So, Snapie, how do we get this done? Is it possible? Is it worthy?
What are your thoughts about this topic? Please feel free to engage in any original way, including dropping links to your posts on similar topics. I'm happy to read (and curate) any quality content that is not created by LLM/AI, as well as read your own experience and point of view, I love to learn!
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